What if there is no matter, only ideas?

I’ve been perplexing myself over my latest fascination that perhaps the answer to “what is the meaning of life” type mind boggling is simply that there is no “life.” Join me for a few paragraphs while I explain, if you will, but try and read with an open mind, or at least the idea of an open mind.

What if we don’t particularly even exist in this human, material, wordly form? Imagine for a moment that instead of humanity evolving slowly from nematoads or their being an all-bearded divinity responsible for our creation, that existence is simply a coming together of ideas. No matter, no atoms, nothing material exists, simply a vast and perhaps infinite collection of ideas. The ideas would have started simple at first and evolved or combined over time to create more complex ideas, similar to how a child’s mind grows from perceiving simple notions at first to the complexities we are able to divine later in life, such as general relativity, time and two scoops of raisins in every box.

These ideas eventually grew so complex that they felt the need to confirm themselves in a physical reality, perhaps it was easier for ideas to compile and expand themselves if they had a more solid state. The same way, again, that a child’s mind can be so wonderfully full of imagination without direction, but as we age we desire direction and focus more than just going with the raw wonderment our brains can muster.

There is actually plenty of evidence to support such an idea, though even the most open-minded skeptic would be able to dismiss it. Think of fire walkers, the folks who hang 300 lbs from their nipples by chains, or those old ninja masters who can have cinder blocks smashed on their chests without feeling it. There are all kinds of people who can ignore pain and what to nearly every one of the rest of us would register as physically impossible acts. We accept them, typically, as amazing and move on with our lives, opening doors, breathing air and generally not defying the laws of nature. But in the end, as much as the majority of human collective consciousness dismisses the ethereal, there is so much to the universe we can’t understand quite yet.

Fortunately, I’ve just figured it all out and revealed it in this post.

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  1. It’s possible, and there are many other options that are also possible. Then what the fuck is truth? Should we talk about things in terms of “truth”? …

    and soon you’ll find yourself losing sanity, and you’ll have to find a specific perspective to stick to in order to prevent yourself from committing suicide.

    Went toward the dark side, but you get the idea.

    Hajime

  2. i am a little confused. what exactly explains that there is no life? i mean i guess it is all how you interpret the meaning of life. i say there is clearly life because you were able to type that message and i was able to read it indicating i am a live thinking organism; which sets me apart from a random atom in the universe. what separates the living from the non-living is the fact that we know we are alive.

    i have been reading a lot about matter not existing, about the location of subatomic particles being affected or determined by the observer not by physical reality, about fractal geometry and the similarity between the subatomic world and a hologram. i wonder if you could use a microscope to magnify almost infinitely smaller if we would eventually see a world. and in that world you would see a person starring down into a microscope that looks just like you. think it is becoming apparent that nothing is random in this universe. this isnt some random collection of atoms from a big bang. it is very structured and seems to center around US. even though we are a spec of dust in this universe, it still seems to revolve around conscious beings. if the universe IS consciousness then without us, it would not exist. not only that but we can directly affect this universe by simply thinking about it.

    um im typing too much but the thing to remember is that none of this matters. none of this changes the point of life which is to have fun, learn a lot, love and let love, and have beautiful kids who grow up to repeat the cycle.

    LogicalStatus

  3. Heh, sounds like a pretty depressing vicious cycle to me.

    Hajime

  4. I’m not suggesting there is “no life”, folks. I’m simply suggesting that what if life is a collection of thought vs. this more substantial reality we have found ourselves in.

    And who’s to say that light and rocks don’t have an awareness of their own “life”?

    And who’s to say what is truth, or that I would even find a fault in losing a little sanity over the idea of discovering whatever else there might be to discover?

    :)

  5. Sanity is for people who pursue self-preservation. If self-preservation isn’t your cup of tea, then why give a fuck about sanity, my friend?

    Hajime

  6. I don’t pursue self-preservation, Hajime. I have been fortunate enough to not only experience the preservation that this world has so kindly bestowed on me, but to live one of the most bountiful lives of this generation.

    Likewise, I do not particularly “give a fuck” about sanity. I find it hard to differentiate between sanity and social norms. The previous term is one philosophers have debated for centuries and has eluded psychiatrists since that practice’s inception. The former, social norms, is something that has no place in my life, as there are many practices deemed socially acceptable and normal which simply lead to an early death, the kind that happens long before your brain and heart stop doing their job.

    As always, I appreciate a well thought out response. The three words preceding “response” being the key there. I don’t censor or edit any comments on this site, but please keep that in mind. :)

  7. What is wrong/right, truth/fault, sanity/insanity, existence/nonexistence, etc, is all perspective specific. We live in different perspectives, we have similarities and differences. When trying to agree on differences, people arrive at eternal arguments. All that matters to me is my own perspective. Hearing others opinions is only for “expanding” my perspective. Trying to change others’ perspectives is silly and futile. We live in our own movies, and everyone else are just actors and actresses.

    If the method of communication is of a concern to you, then I do not belong here. Thanks for your opinions. So long.

    Hajime

  8. i agree with you. i think life is more of a collection of thougt than some random physical plane. here’s a video that kinda relates to your subject and will get u thinking. God Bless :)

    LogicalStatus

  9. http://www.esoterictube.com/consciousness-drives-the-universe.html

    LogicalStatus

  10. I tend to agree with what you said.. when you look at matter to the smallest subatomic particle.. there is nothing.. it is only a group of atoms with electrons, protons, neutrons, photons etc. and all of matter has the same thing, that includes even our own body. So how can we separate ourselves from anything.

    I think that we as each individual is nothing but only the sum of our own thoughts. Our thoughts, added with what the world has perceived us to be is what has given form and shape.

    And as thought is universal and has no boundaries, our form and shape will appear the same to even a stranger.

    Eventually it is only about thoughts and even if we are fat or thin, big or small, is how our thoughts has shaped us, and at every moment our thoughts are reinforcing our state and form – and announcing to the world thorough the universal thought.

    Everything else we perceive is an illusion, a illusion created by us due to our previous experiences and thoughts.

    I am just about beginning to realize this, but i am not sure if it is true. These things are difficult to explain, but i hope you understand.

    Thank you..

    Rick

  11. I’m not sure of it’s real or true, or some percentage of real and true, Rick. All I know is that sometimes, as wonderful as my life seems, I ponder over whether I’m making it all a reality, that there is nothing much more than my own thoughts conjuring it all up. I don’t actually fully believe that, of course, and try telling someone they’re a figment of your imagination and you’ll surely piss them off, bit it’s a stream worth trickling.

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