My buddy b0b

Originally Posted on May 19, 2005 Last Updated on December 12, 2006

I don’t know how many of you are familiar with who St0nes is, but he comments here and on Yummy and has his own site. He’s also my flatmate and cousin and probably my oldest friend as I knew him from the day he was born. Well, as much as a 2 year old can “know” someone.

But Bobby St0nes is on a Greyhound right now to the Cambria County Courthouse where he finds out if he’s got to spend the next 3 months in jail or if he’s just going to get house arrest for the entire summer. I’m not really sure why I’m writing this but I guess I was just hoping that if anyone wanted to pray to their Golden Calf or for those of you who have direct lines to GW, well, maybe you could talk to those people and try and get him the lesser of two extremely sucky options.

This might be more than he would want me to share, but he’s facing these dire consequences because he was caught driving under the influence last year and well, I don’t know, I guess crimes need to be backed up but going to jail at this point wouldn’t make anything better. It’s a bit funny to think that the court system would look at a guy who’s got a good job and is living a stable life and think that by throwing him in jail for 3 months he’ll learn his lesson. The very basic idea of jails is ridiculous, throwing all of society’s troublemakers into one big headquarters where they can plot and scheme together for years, so that even if they go in as decent people who made a mistake or whatever, they’ll probably come out as slightly more criminally masterminded. I guess I just don’t understand punishment procedures.

On top of that he’s got $1500 – $3000 in fines to pay…which he’s already managed to come up with at least the low end of that. I guess you’d think that’d be enough…

So the point of this is, good luck b0b and Cheat Commandos, Rock, Rock on!

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Anonymous 19 May 2005

If that’s his first DUI offense, that’s really harsh. I live in a county noted for it’s tough stance on DUI, but even here the penalty wouldn’t be jail time (or even house arrest) for a first offense. I hope he gets the lightest possible punishment. And I hope he becomes a permanent designated driver. I hate to sound preachy, because, cod knows, I’ve been guilty of drinking and driving. I just never got caught. But, the truth is that when a person is alcohol impaired and behind the wheel, a DUI is one of the least awful things that can happen. The others are too hideous to even mention. Cait

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Cait 19 May 2005

Hey, why do I now have to give my ID and password to leave comments to publish through blogger? I’m not crazy about that.

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quiddity 19 May 2005

I don’t know if it’s too late to wish bob good luck now but the thought is there any way.

i don’t believe in holding people against their will except for the most extreme and violent crimes. even then the emphasis should be on rehabilitation. Not rehab that tries to turn an individual into ‘people like us’ but rehab which shows people how to identify and overcome destructive patterns in their lives.

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Cait 19 May 2005

Quid, I work in an area of law enforcement, and I can tell you with absolutely no doubt that there are some offenders than cannot be rehabilitated. In particular, serial killers, serial rapists (and BTW, ALL rapists are serial rapists), and pedophiles pretty much cannot be “cured”. Sad as it is, once we’ve incarcerated them, we really need to keep them locked up, unless we want more victims.

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ClickNathan 19 May 2005

Hmmm…Cait I think Quiddity’s still saying that extreme offenders need to be held.

I understand her viewpoint. Unfortunately it’s another one of those situations where I just can’t choose. I mean, you want to be able to help people work through things and hope that they can overcome it, but you know that some people can’t.

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Cait 19 May 2005

Yes, Quid did say we probably can’t rehab the violent ones. Just had to stick in my two cents, as it’s something I’m pretty adamant about. We really are going to have to work something out about our prisons. We need to find a way to identify potential criminals when they are young and break the pattern. Unfortunately, that would be very intrusive and come awfully close to governmental mind control of the sci-fi sort. I don’t know any really good solution, but maybe technology will find one someday.

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quiddity 19 May 2005

Cait, I used to work for a project which provided rehab services for young people who commited sexual offences. Patterns of inappropriate behaviour can start from the age of 9 or sometimes younger and almost always stem from the child’s experience of sexual abuse. I guess that many adult offenders have had many years of seeing sex as a means of power over another person and find it difficult to see things differently. It is also true that 70% of our young people in custodial services have a learning disability.

This is certainly not recognised in the provision rehab services. Almost no attention has been paid to teaching in a way in which these people can learn, overcoming the barriers to their disability. This is often because money and resources simply are not available.
i really believe that appropriately targeted and designed early intervention could prevent people from continuing along a ‘deviant’ path.

I suppose there will always be those who have to be detained for the safety of others but i’m sure it could be significantly less than it is a present.

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Cait 19 May 2005

We really do need to find other ways to help the juvies, instead of lock up. The ones who need help desperately are so rarely the ones who get it. Most of them, as you pointed out, cannot help what they become, because they themselves were victims. It’s an endless pattern of abuse. I certainly don’t have the answers.

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olivia 19 May 2005

Yes yes! But I want news! What’s the news with Bob?

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ClickNathan 20 May 2005

Actually I just heard from Bob this morning. It seems that my aunt (who is close friends with and also works with the judge that will be overseeing the case, hence determining the sentence) took him out to eat last night and gave him a lot of bullshit about how he’s probably going to jail.

His attorney, who is only a public defender (the lawyer you get because you “have the right to an attorney, if you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to you”), says that he’s going to get house arrest but stay out of jail.

So I don’t know, it’s all a bit strange affair right now. The trial is actually tomorrow… I let him know that everyone was wishing him well and all of that…

He seems pretty upset but I have a good feeling about it…well, I have less of a good feeling than I did yesterday…we’ll see what happens.

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Cait 20 May 2005

Well, please let us know, whatever the outcome. I’m really pulling for him just to get probation. Or maybe deferred adjudication. At any rate, here’s hoping for the best possible result.

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olivia 20 May 2005

Your aunt probably knows he’s going to be let off again but wants to teach him a lesson by scaring him shitless. At least, I hope thats why she did it. Even so its so crappy to scare him like that before the trial.

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Cait 20 May 2005

I think that’s very possible, Olivia. If she’s good friends with the judge, maybe she put in a good word for b0b.

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ClickNathan 20 May 2005

Yeah well she did do that…put in a good word for him, but still it’s fucked up.

This aunt of ours, well, she’s a bit of a looney toon – I mean I could write novels about what this woman is trying to do to us regarding a very small and meager inheritance.

The amount of money is so small that it’s barely worth squabbling over, but the part where she starts talking trash on me, well, I literally just want to go off…unfortunately I can’t so that’s life….

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st0nes 23 May 2005

well i don’t know how to start this off but, here it goes. First I would like to thank all of you for caring and praying to the ‘pet lambs’ for my safe return. I am very touched to see people that i really don’t know that well, care as they do. i would have to say that your all much more friends to me than my actual real friends (accept for Nathan).

as for aunt Linda she is very much a looney toon, but i think i would have gone to jail if it were not for the cancellation of my actual court hearing, and then not being notified of it. which in turn led to my so called “public defender” calling the judge that my aunt Linda works for, to see if he could schedule me in. and i thank her very much for talking to him in my behalf!

here is what i am facing now. i have to do 3 months house arrest with work release. i then have an additional 23 months probation (which really sucks). i will be making an appearence to some driving school, im not really sure why, because, i am unable to drive for an additional 2 years. and finally i will be made to pay $3,600 give or take a few hundred when it is all said and done.

but once again thanks for all your concerns and worries!

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chad was marco 31 May 2005

hmmm, making its first appearance as a non-rhetorical question, are congratulations in order?

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chad was marco 31 May 2005

sure they are! way to go!

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