No Mitt Romney

December 6, 2007 9:28am

So far, Mitt Romney seems to be the biggest threat to this country during the next Presidential race. I truly hope that he’s knocked out of his shoes before he even gets a chance to run. In an interview on NPR he says the following about abortion with regards to overturning Rowe v. Wade in order to give each state the ability to make the decision for themselves, rather than leave it as is with the federal government.

I would welcome an America where there was such consensus around abortion that we ended the practice all together. Therefore, the right next step is to overturn Rowe v. Wade.

It’s a recognition that it would be a wonderful state to be in where it was a massive national consensus that abortion should not be a practice in this country.

All I can see there is that he’s basically pushing for a repeal of Rowe v. Wade on the basis that he’d like to see an America that agrees with him in consensus. He just sounds dangerous to me, ma, danger us.

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cho star trek 6 Dec 2007

he might be the frontrunner for me right now. i still probably wouldn’t vote, but out of republicans, i like him best. i’m less concerned with abortion or stem cells and more about da border and illegal immigration. i think you’re the other way around though right? it’s interesting how you’re kind of in league with walmart if so

oops. talk like this means i have to research things i’ve already stated

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nathan 6 Dec 2007

Hmmm. I don’t know. I’ll admit that my entire opinion of him was based around this one interview, where I’ll also admit that he handled the NPR interviewer (I can’t remember his name, but he’s the most overt liberal there, always saying things like “Well isn’t it true, sir, that you are a Nazi!?”) when he taunted him.

For example, he made fun of the interviewer for asking him something like “Do you believe in Genesis literally?” to which he replied something like “I don’t think that my specific interpretation of the Bible is the issue here, and we should probably not be mixing Church & State to such a degree.” or something like that.

As for what I think…I don’t know. If I had a child, on accident, I might choose to go the abortion route as I don’t want another kid. I think everyone should be able to decide for themselves and we don’t need to get into other people’s business there. I also see the hypocrisy of a government that sends young people to war, supports capital punishment, but in turn is against killing something that isn’t even born yet.

As for illegal immigration, I say let everyone in. That’s what our country was based on. But no more Republicans. 🙂

And the stem cell thing seems to have been sorted out with them figuring out how to get what they need without involving any fetus or embryo dying or anything.

Keep it Trek!

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chad 6 Dec 2007

right. i heard about that stem cell development now that you mention it.

and i disagree with him about abortion for what it’s worth.

but my concern about the border is less about immigration (if you want them all to come that’s fine, just make it easier for them to come legally so it’s fair for everyone) and more about the violence on the border and the drug trafficking and the way that the mexican military is escorting the drug traffickers and other illegals and how the sheriffs down there are forced to wage war against the mexican military in some cases and in most against ex-mexican american-funded-trained military who are now hired and these people are invading our country and the ranch owners down there are fighting them for marching through their property and a large group of sheriffs have been to the government asking for help mulitiple times. and the thing that bothers me is that i never hear about that.

until i saw a little thing on that recently and so i only know what iheard there. but this seems interesting.

http://www.bordermovie.com/

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Tyler 6 Dec 2007

I voted for Gore, then Kerry, and I’ll be voting for Obama (hopefully he gets the nod). I most-likely will not be voting for Romney. I’m am in no way not telling the truth there to pose as a Romney-backer.

My point is that he is not what’s wrong with America. You are what’s wrong with America. I find it comical decisions and opinions are made on a candidates’ stances on abortion, gay sex, terrorism, and religion.

Please, write a post that details why Romney’s policies on education, foreign policy, the widening gap between super-rich and middle-class, immigration, big businesses running the government, and then I’ll consider your thoughts on something.

Until then, please continue to fulfill the perpetuating, polarized stereotype of the left or right labeling candidates as heroes or villains based on their views about irrelevant topics.

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TJ Thompson 6 Dec 2007

Roe v. Wade should be overturned on the basis of legal process and Constitutional authority alone. The Supreme Court’s decision was the ultimate example of non sequitur. The last time I checked, searches and seizures have nothing to do with abortion, and considering that 37 states have “fetal homicide” laws (homicide being Latin for killing of humans, of course), it is evident that the majoritarian precedent is that abortion is a form of homicide and should thus be illegal.

Nevertheless, Mitt believes it should be a state issue, not a national issue, but of course what he is saying is that if the nation ever got to the point where an amendment could pass, if the American people were that unanimous about it, why would we not do it?

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nathan 6 Dec 2007

Thanks everyone for the comments.

I searched Google for intelligence, as your link purports to ask me to do, but I didn’t see your name come up, Tyler. Better luck next time.

I’m not outright and against Mitt Romney because of his stance on abortion, but because of the statement he’s making, which is basically: I want an America where the majority of people want to ban abortion, so let’s overturn Rowe v. Wade.

It’s ludicrous, he’s basically saying that since the majority of America (and I certainly agree that is debatable) doesn’t support making abortion illegal, the only recourse those who do support making it illegal have is to defeat the law on a national basis and hope that individual states work in their favor.

It’s a bit like asking mom for a cookie and when she says no, going and asking dad (if your dad was 50 people and mom was the word for all of them combined, I suppose.)

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Angry Granny 7 Dec 2007

Nathan,

I am sorry to say but in your words – “Mitt Romney seems to be the biggest threat to this country during the next Presidential race.” – I see another sad confirmation Romney is the next President.

Why? He is the best choice for the Christian Right (they would simple have to swallow his Mormonisam unless they would have to put up with Rudy or Hillary / Obama) unless a miracle of biblical proportions happens and Bush’s ghoulish propaganda machinery does not destroy Mike Hackubee before he become a formidable opponent.

More on my blog. I should say God help us all, but it seems this God is theirs. Like everything else in this country.

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Tyler 7 Dec 2007

Angry Granny,

Huckabee will beat Romney. The Evangelical right doesn’t even like him, mostly because he’s mormon, and secondly because he was border-line pro-choice as governor.

Link to Economist Article

Please read up, everyone. This election is important to not f*** up, as Colbert would say, so it’s best we know what’s going on…

And no hard-feelings Nathan. Nothing targeted at you, just the kinds of people I described in my reply. If you don’t consider yourself one of them, then that’s great!

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nathan 7 Dec 2007

No offense taken, Gran, none at all.

I will say for Mitt, though, that he’s an intelligent guy and at least he’s got that going for him. If we’re going to have a Republican-led country at least make it one headed up with someone who knows how to piece together a solid sentence.

I don’t feel that his religion should be such a big deal; I personally think that anyone who subscribes to a religion that someone else came up with is copping out on one of life’s main goals, which is to explore your own personal beliefs and morals and develop spirituality on your own terms rather than through a heavily edited and branded Bible, but that’s simply my opinion.

It’s pretty clear in the Constitution that religion should play no part in Government. I heard one time that this country was founded on immigrants who were looking for religious freedom. In that way I see the Republican party as incredibly un-American and absolutely unpatriotic. But at least 51% of America practices enough ignorance to ignore these facts so I suppose I’m outnumbered. 🙁

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Angry Granny 7 Dec 2007

200,000 Evangelical churches with 70,000,000 Evangelists led by fanatical moral majority gives me chills. This is rapidly becoming a Christian state with its thought-reducing slogans and it does seem none care for the Constitution. Take Fourth for example and growing power of intelligence community to spy on its own citizens…

Ahhh….

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David Peterdous 9 Apr 2008

Mitt knows John McCain can never be President, he was born outside the continal USA. When asked about this, he ignored it therefore its the truth.
Howard bean also knows. Ms Reno was right, John can run for the office but never hold it.

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nathan 9 Apr 2008

I don’t personally know where he was born, David, but I can’t seriously seeing the Republic party as having allowed him to run and become their candidate if he wasn’t eligible.

And there’s nothing in the Constitution about being born in the continental US, if you’re implying he was born in Hawaii or Alaska. Even if he was born on foreign soil to US Citizens, he’d still be natural-born, I’d imagine.

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